Interviewed
by Marian Hines on May 11, 1989
MH: You said you were born in Delta, Ohio because
your Rowland family farms were there as well as in this territory.
Louva: We moved from Delta, Ohio to West Branch,
Michigan. My father wanted to take
advantage of opportunities he thought was there. He worked on the good roads and he was a well
driller. Later when my grandparents left
their home to move to Detroit, we moved on their farm which was seven miles
from West Branch. (We) lived in the log
cabin. It had a barn. It had a corn crib and we made a playhouse
out of that. We put slats across and had
our toys out there. One morning, my
mother went out to pick raspberries and this bear loomed up in front of her and
she motioned for us to go to the house.
That alerted her. Then she went
looking at our playhouse. The bears had
been circling the playhouse. I suppose
we had left food or something there.
MH: While you lived there, your mother didn’t
want you to go to school?
Louva: Yes.
Not only because of the wild animals.
I had to go through the woods, about two miles to the school. She didn’t want to send a six-year-old girl
through the woods to buck wild animals.
Besides, there were some ruffians in the neighborhood. She keeps me at home. I didn’t go to school until my younger
brother was old enough. He was five and
I was seven when we went to school. When
I was eight years old, we moved to Northwest Territorial Road, at Gottschalk
Road to my grandfather Rowland’s farm.
There we had dairy cattle and pigs up on the hill across the road. Farming went pretty well but not enough
income, so my father then decided that he’d give up on the farm again and move
to Plymouth. When we moved to Plymouth,
the place we finally lived the longest was on Mill Street. That was our third move. First, my father worked at the Conner’s
Hardware on the corner. It still has its
name on the building. It’s a ladies’
dress shop now. The pay isn’t very good
for clerking in a hardware for a large family like ours so he went to work on
the railroad. He worked long hours. He liked his work and the pay was good but
eventually he thought he’d accumulated enough that hew anted to settle into his
own place. That’s when we moved to
Waterford. I lived in the house that
Charles and Barbara George now live in.
It was depressing. In Plymouth,
on Mill Street, we’d had electricity, plumbing, a heating system, a basement,
and plenty of room. When we moved to
this little house, there was no water, no heating system, no plumbing the only
thing we had was electricity. We had to
carry water for eating, drinking, and laundry from the spring that was down the
hill from the home near the railroad. Of
course the other neighbors were carrying their water from the same spring
because they didn’t have any more conveniences than we had. The spring would go dry and then we’d have to
stop what we were doing. Our plumbing
was these outdoor two-seaters. Ours was
(in) back of the house near the line fence and treated with chemical. We had a coal-burning stove in the living
room. We had oil stove in the
kitchen. My sister and I did the
laundry, which were huge piles of laundry, on the weekend, on the washboard,
with a wash tub. We had to carry the
water from the spring, heat it on this oil stove, which took a long time, and
then adding it to suds and trying to get
enough water to rinse the clothes. What
helped is drying them on the line, outdoors.
They smelled pretty good, then.
MH: You were high school-age then?
Louva: Yes, I was tenth-grader.
MH: Where did you go to school? Was there a high school there?
Louva: No.
Only a little country school here in Waterford. I had been attending Plymouth schools and I
continued until I graduated. Then I
matriculated at Eastern College and earned enough credits through the summer to
teach in the country school that I had attended on Northwest Territorial
Road. I was eighteen when I went there
to teach. Calvin Hearn, who was sixteen,
had been my classmate when I went to that school earlier before moving to
Plymouth. We managed to graduate him
from the school.
MH: You met your husband then?
Louva: I really met the neighbors before I
graduated. Dorothy Waterman who was a
sister of my husband, Claude Waterman, was in the same classes at school. We, of course, carried lunches. Jo and I walked the railroad tracks. We didn’t have money for the streetcar. We started early in the morning and hoofed it
to school. Claude would drive his
sisters in and he picked us up and he always had chocolate-covered peanuts in
his pocket and we were always hungry when we got out of school.
MH: You taught at Cooper’s Corners?
Louva: For only one year. There wasn’t enough pupils and school was
closed so the children then went into Plymouth schools. Then I went to Newburgh School and taught
there three years.
MH: That was at Ann Arbor Trail and
Newburgh. Then you left teaching for a
while.
Louva: Yes. I
had started my family, so I left teaching and stayed home until my girls were
in junior high. I decided to leave the
country schools and go full time for one year to Eastern Michigan to get my
degree so that I’d have a permanent certificate for teaching. I spent a year at Eastern Michigan earning
the degree in 1954 and continued carrying courses until I also got the Master’s
degree.
MH: When you went to Northville, did you go as a
regular classroom teacher?
Louva: We worked it out when Mr. Amerman interviewed
me. He said that I’d had a good
recommendation from my instructor at Eastern for the special reading
program. He didn’t doubt but what I was
well qualified however a weak place was in primary teaching so he requested
that I take a second grade class and get primary experience because it was
anticipated that the reading help would have to be from beginners through the
twelfth grade. Second graders are
wonderful. They’re so loving and
precious. I transferred to Amerman
School and had a second grade there for six months. I was changed from teaching at second grade
level to the reading program. The first
year at second grade level was at Main Street School. I had a downstairs room that emptied out the
back door onto the playground.
MH: Who was the principal then?
Louva: I think Mr. Pregetser was there, and then shortly
after (it was) Harry Smith. Those are
the only two principals I remember at that school. Do you know who was Secretary (at Amerman
School)?
MH: Winnie Proctor?
Louva: When he left, it was Winnie but somewhere
along the line it was Marian Zayti. I
remember because she was animated and you could hear her all the way down the
hall. At Moraine, it was Evelyn Zooner.
MH: Were you the first one to be the reading
specialist?
Louva: As far as I know. I would see children for individual help for a
period of a half-hour, three times a week.
Then the other two days you’d work on accepting new referrals, writing
up records, and assembling new materials every other day.
MH: You also supported a lot of other programs in
the school.
Louva: The year I retired, I was assigned to get
referrals with the instructions to help the people who were taking over the
reading programs. (We went) from one
little box of materials to these material centers.
MH: They would have you introduce the new
material or equipment. There was the
feeling that you were supporting the rest of us.
Louva: That was what Mr. Amerman wanted me to
do. I’ve seen some workshops on
T.V. Now they’re trying to go back to
the way we did it in country schools, to have all the levels right there,
within. They think it’s wrong to move
children out of the regular classrooms.
Some of the children couldn’t focus.
You couldn’t get their attention.
Sometimes I wonder, is there anything new under the sun?
MH: You were listed as a moderator at the
Waterford one-room school house in 1926 and ’27. You were very young. That school building was up near the present
Meads Mill.
Louva: Yes, it was closer to the neighborhood
then. It was a one-room school. The water had to be carried in. The lavatories were the chemical kind.
MH: Were they outside?
Louva: Inside, like closets, but no water for
flushing, so you used chemicals. Of
course it had a furnace but it was like pioneer living.
MH: In the 1950’s, a lot of these one-room schoolhouses
were wiped out in the consolidation effort.
Why would the citizenry give up their one-room schoolhouses?
Louva: I was on the board (and) we dealt with
it. We had to get this community ready
to understand it (and) cooperate. All
communities were doing the same thing.
They were bringing their rural schools in but sometimes you had too many
children in the school for one teacher.
Jesse Wilson had too many. Iva
Meinhardt was one of our teachers and Ada Watson was one of our teachers. Some of them were overloaded and then they’d
get all these other problems of the non-learner that you had to cope with in
school or the handicapped child who was a source of distraction and
entertainment to the other pupils and who experienced some child abuse from
inconsiderate children. It gets to be
overwhelming for one country school teacher to take care of. That’s about the time that busing came in. That’s how I could return to teaching. I no longer escorted my (own) children to
school. I used to walk with them in the
morning and watch them get to school, but by the time they got o junior high,
they need to practice some independence, anyway.
MH: You spoke of this house, here on Reservoir
Rd. (When) you decided to live here, was
there a building on this property?
Louva: No.
Mother and Father Waterman had decided to share their property with
their son. This 50 by 150 foot lot was
Claude’s side. We decided to build a
house but we didn’t have the wherewithal to do it. It was very difficult to get materials
because the war effort was on then. We
started with a lot of second hand lumber (and) whatever we could find.
We positioned this house where it
now stands, thinking that we’d live in it temporarily and then it would be the
garage. We soon realized that it was in
such a poor position that if we built the house in front of it, we’d be out in
the road. That’s when we decided to make
this the house and worry about the garage later on.
So this very small, tiny cottage
with a bedroom, a living room, and a kitchen was jacked up and we excavated
under the house and put in the basement.
Then we let the house down on the basement. What an ugly time that was. We desperately needed more room so I took the
cooking and eating down into the basement.
Of course we had a furnace
then. Jessie Wilson’s husband sold us
our furnace. He was an engineer (and)
she was (a) teacher. They lived in Plymouth
for awhile, but then they came over here on the hill. We lived in that ugly condition with half a
house over a full basement, then we built out over it, making the living room
larger and adding a little bedroom. What
had been the kitchen prior to having a basement (put in) is now my bathroom.
Then we were reasonably comfortable
but when my mother died at age 53, she left my youngest sister, Ardith, and
Murray behind. I decided to take my
youngest sister to live with me so then we did need the room up here. She was eleven at the time and had
appendicitis and had a bad time at the hospital. She was practically an invalid for a matter
of months.
We had no plumbing. The Plymouth water supply was coming from the
springs from Beck Road (and) it was pumped into this reservoir. That water was shuttled through to the water
tower in Plymouth. It was for Plymouth
use. Little by little, other people go
to tap on. They had water rights from
Father, John Waterman and it goes diagonally across my property. Finally I was able to tap in. Now it’s no longer the water from the
spring. The reservoir is dry.
My father tried to drill a well for
me. He got part way down. Harvey Whipple, across the way, insisted that
he drill his well, so my father left my well without finishing it, and went
over to drill for Harvey Whipple.
If you drill a shallow well, it
would go dry (and) never would be adequate.
My father went more than 200 ft. drilling for Harvey Whipple. It’s sad to tell you (that) it wasn’t fit for
drinking (and) wasn’t fit for watering his iris garden. It wasn’t fit to use. He’d gone into the salt mine and it was
bringing salt. So he never came back and
finished my well.
MH: Before you tapped into the reservoir, where
did you get water?
Louva: I carried it from Mother Waterman. She had a shallow well, but it would go dry so that it hardly took care of drinking and cooking especially when we added another household to that supply. They had a good-sized cistern. The rainwater back then was clean and usable. Bless Mother Waterman. She shared with me until we could hook in and get more water.
Louva: I carried it from Mother Waterman. She had a shallow well, but it would go dry so that it hardly took care of drinking and cooking especially when we added another household to that supply. They had a good-sized cistern. The rainwater back then was clean and usable. Bless Mother Waterman. She shared with me until we could hook in and get more water.
They used to come up and measure the
reservoir every day. Mr. Redeman did
that. Hazel Redeman taught with me at
Newburgh School. She married Henry Grimm.
MH: Does Joe Rowland, your brother, live around
here?
Louva: Joe Rowland passed away about seven years
ago. I was so angry, I could hardly
contain myself. How dare he! It wasn’t his turn! I’m the older one. Didn’t he know we were taught to take turns?!
MH: You were married and you lived in the
Waterman house here on the corner of Reservoir Rd., but where was the Waterman
property?
Louva: When the Marshalls, the Pattersons, the Whipples, and the Clarks came out they wanted the land on that side so they worked out a trade. The Watermans wanted to do market gardening (and) this lent itself more to market gardening.
Louva: When the Marshalls, the Pattersons, the Whipples, and the Clarks came out they wanted the land on that side so they worked out a trade. The Watermans wanted to do market gardening (and) this lent itself more to market gardening.
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